[IL-CNM] marketing CNM's

Katherine Puls kpuls at comcast.net
Thu Feb 15 23:12:03 CST 2007

I have heard there is a "move a foot" by the AMA to work through  
state and federal laws to eleminate or severely limit the scope of  
this type of clinic.     My concern is that, those limitations will  
effect us even though we  chose not to function in a store front  

  I am also concerned about what calibar of clinician would chose  
this environment.   The salary and benefits that has been mentioned  
to me in a similar phone calls is quite competitive.

It appears that policies and collaborative agreements are national  
and not individualized to a specific APNs abilities, her geographical  
area, or her specific clients.

My impression is that these clinics will be in areas where they can  
make money not necessarily in under served areas.   They don't want  
Medicaid clients or uninsured clients.

These are my impressions after talking with a recruiter. . . . . I  
was curious, I am content in my small full scope midwifery private  
practice in Evanston.

Katherine S. Puls, C.N.M./A.P.N., M.S.
Certified Nurse MIdwife
Partners In WomenCare
Division of MCWHC
Evanston, Illinois 60201
847-864-1200, ext. 3011

On Feb 15, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Kathleen Donaldson wrote:

> Gaye,
> I have already received a phone call at home from Minute Clinics,  
> which is run by CVS...a recruiting phone call.  I can't imagine  
> doing pelvics in these clinics, but to have them staffed by CNM/NPs  
> for general practice would be great.  It is a great opportunity  
> CNMs to be visible to the mainstream public.
> Kudos to you for stepping up to the plate and talking to the class  
> at the University.  And remember, each of those students has a  
> mother, or a sister, or a friend with whom they can share the  
> information about CNMs.
> Kathleen Matush Donaldson
> On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:00 AM, <gayekoconis at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Sarah:
>> I have tried to approach this question from a personal  
>> responsibility stand point.  I have always thought that female  
>> dominated fields are not good at promoting themselves (teaching,  
>> nursing, motherhood as examples).  Is there something more we can  
>> be doing to let people know who we are, where we are and what we  
>> do?  I really did not want to speak with this class at the  
>> University, but I realized it was a good opportunity to promote  
>> what I do to a young group of people who will probably need gyne/ 
>> ob services in the future.  Is there more we can be doing  
>> individually and professionally to gain greater awareness of our  
>> profession?
>> By the way, I think we can definitely capitalize on the momentum  
>> that CVS, Target and Walgreens pharmacies will create by staffing  
>> them with APN's!  How can we do this though???
>> Gaye Koconis
>> sarah simmons <sadiejane58 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hi Gaye,  I imagine the students' question could start a lively  
>> online discussion.  I'll start it by saying that in a system where  
>> healthcare is a for-profit industry, good care and patient  
>> satisfaction are not the bottom line.  (Even when studies show  
>> care is cost effective due to improved outcomes, the medical lobby  
>> is too strong to change policy.)
>> Sarah Simmons
>> gayekoconis at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> Hello everyone:
>> Just wanted to send along my thanks for your video ideas and  
>> comments.  I wasn't able to pick up all of the videos I had hoped  
>> to, but I thought the class went well.  They were all very  
>> interested and sweet, and asked me the most obvious question, one  
>> that I really couldn't answer very well.  "If midwives give such  
>> great care, have such high levels of patient satisfaction, and  
>> have such great stats, than how come so many people don't even  
>> know what a midwife is?"
>> Gaye
>> alicia huntley <ahuntley at interserv.com> wrote:
>> How about the video that comes with the current edition of Barb  
>> Harper’s book on Gentle Childbirth?
>> Alicia
>> From: il-cnm-bounces at luc.edu [mailto:il-cnm-bounces at luc.edu] On  
>> Behalf Of gayekoconis at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:24
>> To: IL-CNM
>> Subject: [IL-CNM] birth video
>> Hello everyone:
>> I have been asked to speak with a theology class at Loyola  
>> University (my alma mater) on February 13, essentially to  
>> participate in a broad dialoge about birth, being a CNM,  
>> discussing prenatal diagnostic testing, contraception,  
>> reproductive responsibilities (broad enough???).  Anyway, I am  
>> wondering if anyone has a readily accessible birth video they feel  
>> captures the essence of why natural childbirth is so wonderful (I  
>> am always at a loss for words when I try to describe why I know it  
>> is important).  Something short, which might even juxtapose a  
>> typical hospital birth would be great.  I know I've seen something  
>> like this, failing memory leaves me at a loss as to when and where.
>> many thanks,
>> Gaye Koconis
>> gayekoconis at sbcglobal.net
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